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Training a large model outside a data center has stopped being an experiment

the fact
Training a large model has always taken thousands of cards wired together under one roof. Between 2024 and 2025 several groups finished real models on machines scattered around the world and joined by the ordinary internet. The wall that stood in the way, bandwidth, has come down by orders of magnitude.
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bitcoin on the day the news was somewhere else
bitcoin’s price around november 6: −2.4% on the day, a close of $101,346. cointalks archive.

On November 6, 2025 Bitcoin closed at $101,346, −2.4% against the previous day, while the day’s news was about the distributed training of artificial intelligence models.

What actually got finished

Why anyone cares comes down to one figure. A single frontier model costs more than $5 billion today in machines and electricity, with the best cards at $30,000 each. At that price fewer than ten companies in the world can afford one, and everyone else can only ask permission to use what they built. The people working on the distributed method say they can cut that cost by 90 percent, using cards that already exist and sit idle half the time.

In November 2024 one group finished a model of 10 billion parameters trained on 112 cards spread across three continents, keeping the machines busy 96 percent of the time under the best conditions. In May 2025 the same group finished one of 32 billion, with more than 100 mismatched nodes and more than 400 hours of training. The whole process was public and anyone could repeat it.

That first model’s scores on the standard tests were far from records: thirty-seven and a half out of a hundred on one, seventy-two on the other. The people who built it never claimed otherwise. The result lay elsewhere. Volunteers scattered around the world, with machines joining and leaving while the training ran, had finished the job using 400 times less bandwidth than the normal method.

Meanwhile a project running inside a network of subnetworks has more than 200 cards in production, has finished a model of 1.2 billion parameters and is aiming for 70. All these figures are declared by the people who produced them: you can check them in the published work, but we haven’t redone them.

The wall was bandwidth, and how they lowered it

The problem has always been the same. Every machine that trains computes corrections to apply to the model, and every machine needs to know what the others computed. Inside a data center those corrections travel over dedicated, very fast cables. Over the ordinary internet they take too long. All the research of the last two years has gone into sending fewer of them.

The first step was to stop synchronizing at every step and do it every 500. The machines work alone for a stretch and realign afterwards, and that alone cuts communication five hundredfold. The second was to compress what gets sent, with a transform and a reduction down to a single bit. The declared reductions run from a thousand to 10,000 times against the standard methods.

The third goes further still: synchronize only 0.1 percent of the parameters at each step, and the model converges anyway. In December 2024 one of these methods trained a model of fifteen billion parameters over eleven thousand steps, on machines supplied by four different operators. So what brought the wall down was three tricks stacked on top of each other, rather than any single idea.

every correctiononly every 500 stepscompressed to one bit0.1% of the parameters
how much has to cross the cable: it starts with every correction sent at every step, and each trick stacks on the one before. the reductions are the ones declared in the published work, not measured by us.

The steps that reduce the bandwidth needed: starting from every correction sent at every step, you move to synchronizing every 500 steps, then to compressing the updates down to a single bit, and finally to sending only 0.1 percent of the parameters.

The other road: split the model instead of the data

The methods above keep a full copy of the model on every machine and split the data. There’s a second road, and a harder one: split the model itself, put different pieces on different machines and make them talk to each other. The trouble is that each piece then waits for the one before it, and over the internet the waits add up.

In September 2024 a group completed a training run of this kind for the first time, across different participants and unequal machines: seven and a half billion parameters, three weeks, thirty-six billion words. A year later they showed a model of eight billion trained with its blocks in four different places joined by the ordinary internet. The results matched a centralized setup, which until then had been thought impossible.

What makes it workable is how failures are handled. Another group built a system that watches which computing routes are free and skips slow or dead nodes. It keeps 93 percent of its output even when 50 percent of them go down. In a data center a node that disappears is a fault; here it’s a normal operating condition.

Why reinforcement learning fits so well here

In early 2025 a Chinese model showed that reinforcement learning, meaning learning by trial and reward, can be the main training method and not just the final polish. That matters a lot for anyone working distributed, because the method copes with delays and dropouts far better than the others.

Out of that came a setup that separates three things that used to sit together: the training, the use of the model to generate answers, and the delivery of the updated weights. Each machine runs its own round and delivers when it’s done. A light check verifies that it really learned from what it saw, instead of copying or making things up.

Another group put a three-stage mechanism on its test network. Each node answers on its own, then the nodes criticize each other, then they settle on a shared answer, and the reward depends on how close each one came to that agreement. It looks more like a newsroom than a server farm, and it works for the same reason: nobody has to trust anybody.

How you check that somebody is really working

This is where the serious problem lies, and it’s about incentives more than technology. If you pay machines to train, how do you know they’re really training, and not sending you random numbers or copying their neighbor’s work? Redoing the computation to check it would cost as much as doing it, so the check has to be cheap.

There are four different answers going around, and they’re worth keeping apart because they fail in different ways. The first is economic: whoever works puts down a bond, whoever cheats loses it, and anyone can report them. The second watches behavior, checking that the corrections delivered match the data that machine saw. The third has validators vote on the quality of what comes in, and also penalizes validators who inflate their votes.

The fourth, not yet running, tries to make the work itself the proof: every answer generated carries a stamp showing which model produced it. None of the four is settled. One of these networks already suffered a real attack over the 2024 holidays, and defending it is the usual cat-and-mouse game.

who checks whom
the waywhat it rests on
a bond put downcheat and you lose it, and anybody can report you
the behaviorthe corrections add up with the data you saw
a vote of the validatorsplus a penalty for whoever inflates the votes
a stamp on the answerthe work itself is the proof · not yet running
the four ways of checking whoever works, and what each of them leans on. none is final.

The four approaches to verification: economic, based on a bond put down that is lost by cheating; behavioral, which checks the consistency between the data seen and the corrections delivered; by vote, where validators judge the quality and whoever inflates the votes is penalized; by stamp, where every answer generated carries cryptographic proof of which model produced it.

The money inside it

The capital raised shows how seriously the idea is taken outside the sector. Sixty-five million dollars went to the best-funded group, at a declared valuation of a billion on a token that doesn’t exist yet. Another raised forty-three million, the group behind the two models twenty and a half, and a fourth seven point six. The investors are American venture capital funds, and crypto treasuries have little to do with it.

For now there’s essentially one live token: the token of the network of subnetworks. It touched $5 billion of market value in December 2024, and since February 2025 it has had separate tokens for each of its 118 subnetworks. All the others are still to come, and the people waiting for them say so openly: these are capital raises with a token promised later.

nous research$65m · declared valuation $1bn
gensyn$43m · test network, no token
prime intellect$20.5m · no token announced
pluralis$7.6m · shares of the model instead of a fixed wage
how much each of them raised, and what it promised in return. from the groups’ own announcements, not from us.

Capital raised by the groups named: nous research, $65m (declared valuation $1bn); gensyn, $43m (test network, no token); prime intellect, $20.5m (no token announced); pluralis, $7.6m (shares of the model, not a fixed wage).

The estimate doing the rounds is that the artificial intelligence market will be worth $15 trillion by 2030. It’s a self-interested estimate, made by people who have put money into these projects, and it’s worth what every five-year estimate is worth. It tells you what its authors hope for, and very little about what will actually happen.

What doesn’t add up, and what to watch

There are four limits, and none of them is small. Bandwidth is still a wall above a hundred billion parameters, even with the compressions above. Security is still a cat-and-mouse game: poisoned data, manipulated corrections, fake identities among the validators. The rules don’t exist yet, and nobody can say today who answers if a model trained by a thousand strangers causes harm.

The fourth is the most awkward, and it’s about real money. If the finished model’s weights are public, who pays for training it? One of the groups tries to solve this by giving participants a share of the model instead of a fee. But that share is only worth something if the model makes money, and there’s no guarantee at all that it will.

From outside there are four things to watch, all of them accounting. How many cards really take part: two hundred today in the most advanced project, when the useful threshold is fifty times that. How many training runs finish without being aborted. What a unit of computing costs here against traditional suppliers. And how far these models are from the best centralized ones. Bitcoin, meanwhile, closed at $101,346, down 2.4 percent. As usual, the price doesn’t notice the day a piece of an industry moves.

put bluntly
in a data center a node that disappears is a fault; here it’s the normal condition, and they built on top of it

Put bluntly: in a data center a node that disappears is a fault to repair; in a network of volunteers it’s the normal condition, and all the research went into building on top of it instead of preventing it.

November 6, 2025published with the day’s close, recomputed on our archive
the words in this piece · 2
fee
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token
the unit a protocol issues. it can serve to vote, to pay, to receive revenue, or to do nothing at all.
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