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Bitcoin is no longer the market’s clock, and every asset bottoms when it feels like it

Ethereum’s peak is August 22, 2025, bitcoin’s is October 6, 2025: 45 days apart. In 2022, 156 days separated the two bottoms.
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Bitcoin and the rest of the market no longer move together. The peaks came at different moments: ethereum in August, bitcoin in October. That breaks the rule everyone uses: wait for bitcoin’s bottom, then buy everything else.

The peaks are no longer on the same day

In our archive, bitcoin’s highest close is October 6, 2025, at $124,659. Ethereum’s is August 22, 2025, at $4,832, which is 45 days earlier. The large coins behind them set their peaks earlier still, many of them between November and December of last year.
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the peaks of 2025 and the bottoms of 2022, on the two timelines. source: cointalks archive, daily closes.

In 2025 Ethereum’s highest close is August 22, 2025 and Bitcoin’s is October 6, 2025: 45 days apart. In 2022 Ethereum’s bottom was June 18, 2022 and Bitcoin’s November 21, 2022: 156 days.

We had never seen a gap this wide. In the 2021 cycle a few weeks separated bitcoin’s peak from the altcoins’. Here we’re talking about months, and in some cases a whole year.

The most convincing explanation is who is buying. The bitcoin ETFs have created an institutional flow that only touches bitcoin, and that flow has partly cut its price loose from the rest of the ecosystem. The altcoins, which have no vehicle like that, have been left to move on the same demand as ever: retail demand.

The 2022 precedent, that nobody frames this way

In 2022 the same thing happened the other way round, and the numbers are in our archive. Ethereum bottomed on June 18, 2022 at $995, while bitcoin kept falling until November 21, 2022, when the collapse of FTX took it to $15,781. That’s 156 days between the two bottoms.

Whoever bought ethereum in June, without waiting for bitcoin to finish falling, took home a five-month head start. And it wasn’t luck, because ethereum never went back to that low, even though bitcoin lost another forty percent in the months that followed.

Today’s structure looks similar: ethereum has already lost 37.6 percent from its peak, bitcoin 26.7. Ethereum is further along its path, and bitcoin still has some way to go. Treating them as one thing means reading two different clocks as if they were the same.

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how much each has lost from its own peak, as of november 27. source: cointalks archive.

As of November 27, 2025 Ethereum is down 37.6 percent from its own peak of August 22, 2025, and Bitcoin down 26.7 percent from its own of October 6, 2025.

Whoever bought ethereum in June 2022 took home a five-month head start

What the speed of the fall says

On the measure I look at first, how far the price has moved over the past ninety days, ethereum has reached levels not seen since May 2022. That month came a few weeks before the cycle bottom, and the signal worked then.

On the weekly view the picture is even clearer: ethereum is in territory comparable to the 2022 floor. Historically, extremes like these have preceded accumulation and then recovery, and that’s why I’m not selling here.

Bitcoin has a different structure, because the same measure hasn’t yet reached ethereum’s extremes. In other words, it may still have room to correct while ethereum is already well into its own phase. They’re two different phases of the same market, and they need to be treated differently.

Is the December upgrade a trigger or not?

On December 3 the upgrade that multiplies each block’s data capacity by eight goes live on Ethereum’s mainnet. It also rewrites how the layers built on top pay their fees. On paper it’s the biggest change of the year for the network’s economics.

History counsels caution, though: in the short run Ethereum’s upgrades have had mixed effects. The move to proof of stake in 2022 was followed by a sell-the-news drop. Over the medium term, on the other hand, upgrades that improve the network’s economics tend to show up in the valuation.

Anyone calling it an underpriced trigger is betting on exactly that: if the fee reforms for the upper layers work, the network’s revenue grows. For now the market isn’t pricing it in at all, since ethereum trades near the year’s lows a few days before activation. The quarter after will tell us whether that’s an opportunity or a verdict. The week itself matters little.

What changes in the way you buy

The practical consequence of the gap is that bitcoin no longer works as a clock. The rule everyone carries in their head, wait for bitcoin to bottom and then buy everything else, assumes the rest follows right behind. In 2025 that didn’t happen for any of them.

Every asset has to be watched on its own, with its own moment to get in. It’s more work and it leads to uncomfortable decisions, because buying something while bitcoin is still falling feels wrong. Yet in 2022 it was the right move.

One risk I always keep in view is the correlation with American stocks. After months of gains the main index still hasn’t had a real correction, and the ratio between ethereum and that index has looked weak since October. If stocks corrected even five percent, the move would reach crypto amplified, and the altcoins, still seen as the riskiest asset, would do worst of all.

ethereum’s peakAugust 22, 2025
bitcoin’s peakOctober 6, 2025
the large altcoins’ peaksbetween Nov and Dec 2024
the three moments, according to our archive.

Ethereum’s peak: August 22, 2025, $4,832. Bitcoin’s peak: October 6, 2025, $124,659. The largest altcoins set their own peaks between November and December 2024.

45 days between ethereum’s peak
and bitcoin’s
the words in this piece · 4
fee
what you pay to use a protocol. it can go to whoever supplies the service, to whoever holds the token, or to both.
proof of stake
the way of keeping a network standing by making whoever validates it lock tokens up, instead of spending energy.
retail
the public of small investors, as against the professional operators.
short
the position that gains when the price falls. you open it by selling something you don’t own.
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